25 boxes of Mel’s Mix later we are ready to get started! Store SKU # 375404 Everything is being done by Home Depot. I hope that gives you the go ahead to get started. Do you know have any room outdoors like a patio, deck, or rooftop to put one of the boxes? I’m on Long Island NY and the closest Home Depot’s that carry it are in Queens and Brooklyn. Would we add less than the 1/3 mentioned in the book since it already has some perlite in it? 4. Then they decide we won’t carry it in every store, but just some stores. The problem is it takes a new product and manufacturer years and years of effort and toil to get in all the local nursery and big box garden centers. I was so excited to find Mel’s Mix online but when I called HD’s customer service I was told they could only ship to my home. Do you know if it contains sheep manure which is something my wife would like to avoid? My Hubby wants to make a 4’x10′ box just for potatoes. A couple of notes: Tell me what the advantages are said to be. I may have been wrong on Lowes price. Ingredients: 30-40% compost, +Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss, Coir,+ Vermiculite, & Bone Meal, Blood Meal, Kelp Meal, Cottonseed Meal, Alfalfa Meal, and Worm Castings. Whatever they post on the website is what it’s going to be for that day. I am a Store Manager for Lowe’s Home Improvement. You cannot have it shipped to your local store at this present time. You’re absolutely right that the unit cost is more for the 32 quart bag. It is listed on the Internet Catalog and we have been told that you can order it online and it will be shipped to your local store. ), Have it as close as possible to the house. We really have nothing to do with the situation. Garden Time 1.3 cu ft Phalaenopsis Mix Soil I couldn’t find OMRI-certified compost at east coast stores, but can get compost from produce stores and small animal farms for free or close to free. Here’s what others have accomplished. Mel Bartholomew, author of the book Square Foot Gardening, thought not. Everything is decided by Home Depot. The passing of a legend, yet his legacy lives on… and keeps on growing. My first two 3×4′ boxes are going beautifully and I’m plotting where I can put more! I hope that idea works for you and you can get your garden started. I’ve passed your request onto the Gro-Well company sales representative. It was invented by backyard gardener and engineer Mel Bartholomew. 3. We have to be thankful that they are even carrying and selling Mel’s Mix on their internet catalog. I have not found it for $4 here in Vegas. $8.97 I will get the original book, as I have only read the new one. So bless you for persevering and starting your SFG. To counter that you could add some extra vermiculite to the Mel’s Mix or make sure you keep your beds moist at all times. Do not try to order on the internet, you cannot negotiate with a computer. Goodbye”. The local Las Vegas LOWES stores has Mel’s mix on sale at just over $4.00. (For convenience, and protection. I’m going to try to answer all of your questions. 1. 1.5 cu. Thanks again for writing. DO NOT BUY TOP SOIL!! Well let’s see if we can help you out. Their answer was Mel, if you call us again one more time, we will take your product right out of the catalog. Best of all, you can even "buy" the different types of compost needed. 5. I ordered 10 bags from Home Depot online after chatting online with a HD rep. and she had it shipped for only $50. Great letter and so filled with information! Thanks, You should then order 6 bags of Mel’s Mix. Lay down your grid and start planting. Here is a link to a local store website in San Diego: http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203272590?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=vermiculite&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=203272590. Also I am curious why the mix is so much more. ft. bag and it’s named Square Foot Gardening Potting Soil Mix. Square foot gardening is a simple method of creating small, orderly, and productive kitchen vegetable gardens. Wanted to order 32 bags of Mel’s Mix and have it delivered to our Community Garden in Chillicothe, Ohio. Don’t call your local store, there is nothing they can do for you. I have 12″ of planting space! The initial cost per bag is quite reasonable: $7.95 for 1.5 cubic feet and shipping per bag goes down as you order more to the same address. Mel: see my response in prior comment made a few minutes ago. Customer demands produce results. The shipping fee listed is $150, not $55. All best, I guess my first question is did you read the book? I hope this doesn’t give an invitation to spammers to go ahead and send a lot of stuff. One of my tomato plants is just shy of 5 feet tall with many branches and at least 40 cherry tomatoes, still green, and multiplying daily it seems. In fact there’s a drawing in the original book on page 253. The bags that Lowes are 2.0 cubic feet (not 3.0 cubic feet) and I’m not sure of their selling price. We thought once it’s in Lowes and Home Depot, all the problems would be solved. ). This may seem like a foolish question, but can this be used for indoor container planting? Mel. So is it possible you might want to have extra bags for a larger garden or more boxes or can you get a neighbor to go in with you and combine orders and together you’ll still only pay the first $55 (it needs to be shipped to the same address still) there must be someone in your neighborhood who would like to start a SFG and then you could split the cost of the $55 shipping fee. Many of the Lowes stores carry Mel’s Mix (http://www.lowes.com/pd_383743-78212-GT+11730_0__?productId=3709126&Ntt=garden+time&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgarden%2Btime&facetInfo=), so it’s a matter of calling them and making sure you give the correct title (Garden Time company, Square Foot Gardening Potting Soil Mix, Item #: 383743, Model #: GT 11730, 32 qt – which equals 1.3 cu. Even our supplier cannot control the matter either. It makes the $150 sound good. I have been taking photos and will gladly share them – I’ll look around your site to see how to do that. Of course the problem is going to be shipping cost. open to new beginnings. 1/3 of a 5 compost blend Shipping was 10.00 per bag- 200.00 for 20 bags. Plant a different flower, vegetable, or herb crop in each square foot; using 1, 4, 9, or 16 plants per square foot. etc. He then called the manufacturer. (Where roots and shade won’t interfere. As soon as our HD starts to ship to our area we will without a doubt purchase some Mel’s Mix for future planting. Keep trying and Good Luck! Apparently, different manufacturers in different parts of the garden industry use different names for … I am so distress to hear your experience. I’m not sure why your wife doesn’t want sheep manure compost – I used to use that quite extensively in Utah and it always seemed to work quite well – but I will find out. It’s astounding that so many big, diverse plants can grow from only 6″ of soil! Went to the local Home Depot. And how can I get some? I don’t mean that as criticism, but they have no connection with the internet product catalog and each department carries so many different products, with new ones coming all year long. 3. I am finding that your mix from Home Depot is cheaper than making it ourselves from the local nursery for 96 cu ft. It would encourage others to see how easy it is and to start their own. Link: http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&productId=3709126. Should we adjust the recipe for our area? Can I make my garden on top of a table, and place my 4 x 4 garden box on top of the table outside in a semi-closed patio? Dear Joyce, I tried looking elsewhere online but couldn’t find anything. I’ll send you some pictures after I get them all filled, hopefully by tomorrow night I’ll be done with that part. It is the same ingredients and formula as the Home Depot bags it’s just a different cover on the bag. Fill the Raised Garden Bed. So Thank You Home Depot for that. 2. As you can probably guess each big box store or chain wants a product to look like it is their special product. So I’ve got to leave it up to each of you. :\. Keep trying and Good Luck! The plan is to go to the internet, order, and then have two options: a) if you’ll pay the delivery, they’ll ship it to your house b) if your local Home Depot already has inventory of Mel’s Mix, you can place your order and pick it up free at that store. Dear Georgene, I want to order, but don’t know how to compare. Can you send me some pictures of your garden, even during construction, and early growth? Mel Bartholomew 1931 – 2016 The founding father of Square Foot Gardening, also known as SFG, Mel Bartholomew died on 4/28/16 at the age of 85. You were lucky! Thank you. Each of my 3 teenagers is going to be in charge of a 4×4 area that will be their own. They are ready in only 4 weeks and so delicious, I want enough for daily salads! If this is not possible for a store manager to order directly for thier own stores use, we will have to get Lowes Corporation involved and maybe that path will work. $8.97 for a 1.5 cu. Here’s what others have accomplished. It […]. Due to financial reasons we can not ship directly to our house so we bought Happy Frog organic potting soil. The Grid and the Guru Our grid is fashioned after the raised bed system made famous by engineer-turned-gardener Mel Bartholomew and his book Square Foot Gardening (public library). Call 1-800-430-3376. Call 1-800-430-3376. See if you can answer all of those questions and then that should lead you in the direction to get ready to fill your boxes. What a wonderful solution and I can imagine your joy in seeing that UPS truck drive up to your front door. We ordered 68 bags and it should be here in a few days. 1. You have found the real, true reason as to why to get up and get on with your life. Here’s what I would like you to do for me. For obvious reasons this was not an ideal situation for us or the customer (esp. I have looked on your site, gro-well’s, and home depot’s and can’t find the ingredients. That’s because this is the very best way to grow a garden, maximizing space and minimizing work. 4. Goodbye”. So I’ve got to leave it up to each of you. We have been told the more customers that make comments and complaints will be much better results. I can’t afford to buy it from Home Depot’s website, I only need a few bags and shipping is killer at $10.99. In fact, you’ve encouraged me to write a new blog as follows…”Two Words of Advice – 1. I’m sure if you mean using containers in place of a square box. And since it is only a 1/2 foot deep (6 inches) that would equal 8 cubic feet. Internet # 203272590 2. As a reminder, sales from our website support all of our educational and humanitarian projects. So I’ve got to leave it up to each of you. All rights reserved. This mix eliminated the need for artificial fertilizer as compost is added each time you re … That would be a nice, absolute test of whether it has any advantage. It certainly, in one sense, is a soilless mix, as defined by most people, and yet all three ingredients are organic and from the earth. I hope you are able to do that for us and I’ll be looking forward to your results. All rights reserved. Hopefully they will start carrying it in the store. In my next column, I will discuss how to start planting. Goodbye”. Growing your own food does not need to be expensive. 2) New Direction - Locate your garden "on top" of existing soil. Thanks again! I don’t wish to deter people from using your mix when there is most likely nothing wrong with the ingredients and we are being overly concerned. Home Depot Home Depot sells 1.5 cu ft for $8.97 (63% more). Then they have a plan for shipping it either to your house or local store..but they start that plan by only shipping to your house at a very high cost. Thank you for your letters. We’re hoping for a groundswell so everyone pick up their phones, please. 5. 5. So please do not call them to try and get them to change the shipping. In stock, no ordering online. 4. I think vermiculite is cheaper on the east coast, while peat moss is the same price on both coasts. 4. You bring up some very good subjects and I thought I had covered all of those different questions and situations in all of my books. I found a different bag. That is crazy. In 1976 Mel invented Square Foot Gardening as a simple alternative to labor intensive and inefficient row gardening. I’m truly sorry for the situation. Hi Mel. (1) Store pickup is available from Home Depot from select east coast stores, while for Lowe’s I found them on the west coast. In the past, Home Depot has changed the shipping from $55 maximum, then to $150 maximum, then to no longer available. From what is locally available, we were looking to use the following composts and looking for others: You might also tell them it’s a good product and why can’t they just put in every store. Hence, we need no expensive heavy-digging tools. I had to try it to believe it, and since then have helped and will continue to help others grow their own food. Just easier starting out than mixing, albeit more expensive. If it doesn’t have vermiculite, then add some if you can find it. Rather than digging up, adding to, and improving your existing soil every single spring-that’s a lot of work over 10 years-all you have to do with Mel’s Mix is remember to add a trowel-full of compost to each square after you harvest it and before you replant with a new and different crop. When you finish harvesting a square foot, add compost and replant it with a new and different crop. I just get too confused with all the other things and math and all that…. In the past, Home Depot has changed the shipping from $55 maximum, then to $150 maximum, then to no longer available. Sometimes that’s a little more expensive than we plan. Call 1-800-430-3376. I’ve had people tell me they’ve decided to save money and buy all thier own ingredients, but they found out it wasn’t that easy, because they had to go to three different places and then do all the mixing and when it was over, they looked at each other and said, “Next time we will buy Mel’s Mix, all mixed already and bagged.”. Make a square foot grid for the top of each box. Shipping was only 150 for 25 bags versus the 200 for 20 bags I inquired about at my local HD last night. I know I sound like a broken record… everyone up here has said the same thing. Mel's mix, the growing medium, which is said to be the root of all success, is made up of 1/3 each of compost, vermiculite and … So we have to ask everyone to use a little common sense and you may have to do a little bit of simple arithmetic. It even explains in detail how to shop if you find some ingredients in different size bags. Thank you for the information about obtaining Mel’s Mix at Lowes in your area. Had to pay $55 shipping. Just “Chatted” with a rep from Home Depot. So much fun! Peat. Someone once told me, its harder to find coarse vermiculite so it’s worth buying Mel’s Mix all bagged rather than spending time looking for the vermiculite portion alone. We’re excited to see the results! Conserve seeds. I am going to contact my local LOWE’S and see if they can get your soil in stock. If you use Mel’s Mix in your box on top of your weed fabric, that separates your existing dirt with your plants and they then grow in the 6 inches of perfect soil. That would be enough to fill your box and have just a little leftover. I hope he gets in touch with you. 1 part peat moss* or coco coir All New Square Foot Gardening, 2nd Edition. I’m truly sorry for the situation. Thanks to your letter, I am going to do more investigations so we know exactly what bags, size, price, and visual look each store is selling of our basic formula Mel’s Mix. Closest store was in New Mexico, over 400 miles away. So that is how we teach Square Metre Gardening in 3rd world countries. Everything is decided by Home Depot. I was thrilled and honored to read your letter. I’ll be interested in knowing how large your garden is and your experience in using the Mel’s Mix, especially your first spring planting. They cannot help me. There must be many SFG’s in New York City – nice! They have monopoly on your mix right now, so it looks like they feel they can charge whatever they want. Put that product number in the search and you can order your 64 bags from Home Depot and believe or not the shipping will only be $55.00 (which is .86 per bag – isn’t that amazing). Everything is decided by Home Depot. Is the &55fee no longer available? Do not mention my name or the SFG Foundation’s name, just say you are a customer that wants to order so many bags of this product number,#11760, and what is the best shipping deal you can give me? 2. Schools across the nation and international humanitarian groups around the world are using the Square Foot Gardening method making inroads against poverty and hunger. Pick an area that gets 6-8 hours of sunshine daily. Note: While we love this method of planting, we don't love Mel's soil mixture as we Here's Mel Bartholomew, the … Garden Time 32-Quart Potting Soil What happened to the $55? They CANNOT order it at the store as the SKU number isn’t in the local system. Remember to start small the first time. In the past, Home Depot has changed the shipping from $55 maximum, then to $150 maximum, then to no longer available. I’m sorry Tracy it’s going to cost so much to ship just six bags. I can’t justify spending so much for shipping, that’s insane. Thank you again for you letter and I hope we can get you some speedy replies. After much experimentation, Bartholomew concluded that his formulation of 1/3 peat moss or coconut coir, 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 blended compost yielded superior results in only a 6 inches (15 cm) depth. 4. They have each planned out their gardens and can’t wait to get started planting. It’s the only way we’re going to get it out there. But our flower pot is square and much bigger, but about the same depth (6 inches) and it is filled with the perfect soil. You’ve built the frame for a raised garden bed; now you need to fill it with … So right now, as of this date, you can order Mel’s Mix anywhere in the continental USA and have it shipped to your house. since we don’t have a Home Depot anywhere near us). How many bags at 1.5 cubic foot each do you need to buy to equal the 8 cubic foot space? So read the ingredients of your Happy Frog mix and if it already has peat moss in it, don’t bother adding that. Which book do you have? I have a friend in California who ordered 175 bags and got them for $55 shipping. open to new beginnings. The whole SFG system is based upon…Forget everything you’ve ever learned about typical backyard gardening. I hope that sheds some light on your question. Here’s a link to my latest book All New Square Foot Gardening, 2nd Edition. Dear Audrey, A complete natural and organic, ready to use soil. If those ingredients come from different manufacturers, in different sizes of bags…with different ingredients, it will just have to be that way until we can get Mel’s Mix in every nursery and big box store in the country. Have you ever tried to partner with us to sell your product? so it is worth trying again, and again if necessary. For 6 bags the shipping fees were going to cost me about $55…more than my total purchase. Thank you. Belinda was trained under Mel Bartholomew (Mr. Square Foot Gardening, himself), teaches square foot gardening classes in Utah, and trains anyone who wants to become Square Foot Gardening certified! I would not change the mixture unless you aren’t home often enough to make sure the garden soil stays moist down below the surface. Call 1-800-430-3376. Thank you Sandy for your experience and let’s hope everyone follows your suggestions. Now it won’t matter whether your local stores carry it, but we’re hoping for the long run that they do. Im curious also to know what the bag looks like, and any background or history about why they are carrying it. We would love advice because we are so very confused but excited to start this. The local stores all can’t order it in for some reason. So please do not call them to try and get them to change the shipping. It didn’t matter how many bags! Actually, you can order any number of bags and the total shipping is only $55. When you go or call your local Home Depot, they don’t seem to be in tune with what their company is doing. ), Area must not puddle after a heavy rain. Created for use in Square Foot Gardens or any raised garden bed. Hi Mel, Thank you for your reply! Then we are going to plant a different crop in each of the square feet. If it’s too much, say “Tell your boss that’s way too much and I have to cancel my order. Show those neighbors something new. Thanks! Thank you. The guide has sold 2.5 million copies since Bartholomew wrote the book in 1981. I’ll give you the answer for those two sizes, but it’s also listed on page 100 of the ALL NEW SFG book. You just go to the garden store and buy the best potting soil that is made by another company and never tell anyone I told you. Home Depot this year has 1.5 bags and there official name is Square Foot Gardening Potting Soil Mix and it has a product number of 11760 at $8.95 per bag. I’m going to list the ingredients in the next paragraph for you along with the manufacturer Grow-Well guarantee. That just doesn’t seem right but shipping is so expensive these days. Do you have your boxes, and grids and ground weed fabric all ready?? I decided to hold off as this is too expensive. You can still call them on the 800 number to place your order, but you cannot call them to ask to have your order shipped to your local store, even though it looks like that is an option on their website. With Mel on it. All I can advise is as mentioned on my blog, treat it just like the weather…wait until tomorrow and it might be a sunny day and then you can go to the beach. Mel’s Mix is the perfect growing soil. With your 50 bags that’s only a $1.10 per shipping and that’s not bad at all. Hope that helps you and you are able to find Mel’s Mix. I have a farm supply store(Ja-Hootie’s Country Farm Supply) in North ID 50 miles from nearest Home Depot. Water at the base of the plant. The Square Foot Gardening principle is pretty simple. Highly recommended for flower and vegetable gardens, Ideal potting soil mix for raised garden beds, planters and pots. Melissa. Totally excited to garden 100% the square foot way. You raise a good point and thank you for telling us about your experience. So to make a short answer to all your concerns and questions, the answer to your suggestions…is YES. 6. Actually, when you think of the cost of going to the store and all the trials and tribulations-if you consider a typical trip to the store, it might go something like this: Get everyone organized to go, then fight traffic, try and find a close parking spot by driving around the parking lot, aisle by aisle, finally park, go inside to search, find the display, talk it all over again, look for the kids, then go get a cart, load up, stand in line to pay, search the parking lot for where you left the car, find a dent in your car door, load into car, tear and spill one bag all over your nice new van, have to fill up on gas, end an argument of I told you so, decide to stop for lunch, go home, unload, collapse, etc. Mel Bartholomew was the founder and inventor of the Square Foot Gardening method and the author of All New Square Foot Gardening, the best-selling gardening book in America for a generation.The guide has sold 2.5 million copies since Bartholomew wrote the book in 1981. It was still 10.00 shipping per bag. ), Be sure it is not near trees and shrubs. They want to charge me $150 for shipping a product that costs $134.55. As each square is harvested, you add a trowel full of compost, and replanted with a different crop, depending on the season. any suggestions on how NOT to get gouged by shipping? Worth it to me! That would be the ideal solution. But of course you have to pay the retail price, so that would work if you were an individual and I’m not suggesting you give this information to your customer, but let’s see if we can get our mix in your store, one way or another. I can’t imagine why they’re selling it at half price. You cannot have it shipped to your local store at this present time. I did buy more pre-made Mel’s Mix so I can plant more baby salad greens mix in whatever small containers I can scrounge up. I was thinking to add some vermiculite to the mix since it only uses perlite. 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